It is something quite private, a very crucial thing. Hell! It is a loved ones motto. Are you ready Jerry? I want to make confident you happen to be prepared, brother. Here it is: Show me the cash. SHOW! ME! THE! Funds! Jerry, it is such a pleasure to say that! Say it with me a single time, Jerry.”
-Rod Tidwell, “Jerry Maguire” (1996)
“If I’m an engineering significant, how can I get into finance? Show me the funds!”
I find myself answering this query a lot, possibly due to the fact I am from a non-finance background myself. Or maybe just since everybody desires to get into finance.
How you can leverage your technical background to land a job in the jungle of finance? As a technical person proper out of school, you have two ways of breaking in:
Get an investment banking analyst position in the technology or TMT (Technology, Media & Telecom) group of a bank. You will use none of your quantitative/analytical background and instead use your interest in the sector/work ethic to get in.
Get a quantitative job at a hedge fund or performing trading/fixed earnings at a bank. You will leverage your quantitative and probability abilities to get in.
Of the two, the second is easiest for most engineers. Wall Street has by no means been more quantitative, and it’s only getting more quant-focused every single day. Even with some recent issues in the credit market place and some high-profile difficulties at prestigious funds such as Goldman Global Alpha, this trend will not cease anytime soon.
Hedge Fund And Connected Jobs
On-campus recruiting for these positions is much less common than it is for banking analysts, but it is there if you seek it out. Citadel, 1 of the biggest hedge funds in the planet, does undergraduate recruiting for its rotational system, as does Jump Trading, based out of Chicago.
The good news is that if you happen to be an engineering key at a best university, you have a good likelihood of landing 1 of these jobs, even with no earlier finance encounter. If you are in this position and go by way of on-campus recruiting, you want to emphasize your interest in finance because this is how they select candidates. Here’s a direct quote from a Citadel recruiter:
“To be sincere, we know you are all fairly good quantitatively… following all you got an engineering degree at a single of the best applications in the nation. You require to show us that you’re interested in finance because that’s what differentiates you.”
In the course of interviews they will ask you quantitative concerns but it really is critical that you show them you have had a sturdy and steady interest in finance. Have some excellent stories prepared, specially on individual investing and why you are especially properly-suited to be a trader.
For trading jobs the “fit” part of the interview is even much more crucial than it is for banking. If you never trade stocks in among classes and wake up early every morning to read monetary news, gambling is a good hobby to mention. I was asked if I played video poker/online poker and other casino games when interviewing for hedge fund jobs. You want to emphasize hobbies/interests that show you can believe about risk vs. reward.
No Thanks, I Really Want To Be A Banker
Full disclosure: you can do this, but the hours are going to be far worse than trading, the spend will not be significantly greater and you’ll have to do truly menial, low-value-add work. The benefit is you do have a wider range of exit possibilities – performing engineering and then banking sets you up really nicely for venture capital, for example. And the perks are good.
As a technical person, you have many things going for you right away: no one particular will question your intelligence, and they probably won’t ask you brain teasers or math questions. If you can get a degree in Electrical Engineering, you can do Excel calculations in your sleep. And no one particular will query your focus to detail (or at least not as much as if you were an English main).
What you will require to concentrate on in recruiting and interviewing is demonstrating your 1) interest in finance and 2) capacity to manage the hours/pressure of the job, which are considerably worse than those of an engineering/tech business.
A couple of more certain tips: when you discuss your interest in finance you need to mention tech businesses if you’re applying to a tech group in a bank. And don’t just mention Google or Facebook. These are the most visible tech organizations by far, but any person can learn about them by reading TechCrunch or by listening to pals.
You need to have to show true interest in the market, which indicates taking the initiative and talking about less properly-known businesses. Prior to my interviews at tech groups in banks I created a list of significantly less properly-identified startups/other organizations I found interesting and had a story ready about every of them. You must do the same.
As far as the second point about handling the pressure/hours, as an engineering key you must have had numerous extended project classes… these are all very good to mention, as are any internships where you launched a product that needed “crunch time” at the end.